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Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Ghostinthemachine#700577710/25/12 | |
GeauxLSU Campfire Tracker | |
 GeauxLSU Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,510 | Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Sure. Bows and arrows should be allowed in archery season. Long archery seasons were set up specifically because it IS harder. Personally, I shoot recurves and have to get within 25 yards and draw on the critter without being spotted. Compound hunters still have to draw the bow. A co*cked crossgun is simply not a bow. lol Btw I know this argument aint going anywhere and nobody is going to have their minds changed on the subject. I'm simply giving my opinion, and have no malice towards crossgun users per se. I'm all for seperate archery seasons, as long as people use bows. It's not about 'changing minds' (for me), I'm just interested as I don't get it. What is a 'bow and arrow'? I get you don't consider a crossbow a bow or a bolt an arrow. Compounds with all the accoutrements fine? NRA Lifer |
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Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Ghostinthemachine#700579810/25/12 | |
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger | |
Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 | WTF is it to ya what somebody else uses to hunt with ? I usually use a lever action .30-30 during rifle season and an iron sighted Hawken with patched balls during muzzleloader, while most use scoped bolt actions and inlines. No skin off my ass, I use what I do by choice. If it shoots arrows {regardless of length} it belongs in archery season, if it burns powder and is breech loading it belongs in rifle season and if it loads through the muzzle it belongs in muzzleloader season. It's really as simple as that and there's no reason to complicate it further. What's funny as hell is that many who wouldn't use a crossbow on a bet during archery season will think nothing of "hunting" from a treehouse on highly managed, private land with food plots and feeders and think they've really accomplished something special when they kill that farm raised "manufactured" trophy buck. Those fella's are a real hoot ! |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Blackheart#700581110/25/12 | |
GeoW Campfire Ranger | |
GeoW Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,262 | Blackheart, it could and should be simpler than that... Deer season opens on opening day... and closes on closing day.. use what you brung, from a pocket knife to a howitzer. That simplifies the matter considerable.
Geo "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon! "A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Blackheart#700581710/25/12 | |
A APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger | |
APDDSN0864 Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 19,822 | I'm going to use my .458WM in rifle season. My longbow is strung next to the back door with my quiver full of carbon arrows (feather fletched with fixed, two-blade broadheads I don't care what you use, just get your butt out and exercise your hunting rights! Ed "Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! GeauxLSU#700583010/25/12 | |
A AJ300MAG Campfire Ranger | |
AJ300MAG Campfire Ranger A Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 15,856 | There was a time when both archery and muzzle loading hunts were established as traditional hunts. We've come a long way from the original intent... I remember how compound bows we're accepted into the hunting fraternity. |
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Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! GeoW#700583310/25/12 | |
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger | |
Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 | Originally Posted by GeoW Blackheart, it could and should be simpler than that... Deer season opens on opening day... and closes on closing day.. use what you brung, from a pocket knife to a howitzer. That simplifies the matter considerable.
Geo Agreed and I'd be fine with that. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! mjbgalt#700584210/25/12 | |
T tzone Campfire 'Bwana | |
tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 | Originally Posted by mjbgalt sick of the stupid comments about crossbows. they don't shoot further or faster. nothing more than a bow. Get your hip boots on if you believe that. My bow doesn't have a scope, a trigger, a co*cking mechinism, I can't walk to my stand with it "co*cked".... Not even close to a bow. Shoot whatever the hell you want, but it's quite a bit more than a bow. Camp is where you make it. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Blackheart#700585210/25/12 | |
N NH K9 Campfire Outfitter | |
 NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,787 | Originally Posted by Blackheart WTF is it to ya what somebody else uses to hunt with ? I usually use a lever action .30-30 during rifle season and an iron sighted Hawken with patched balls during muzzleloader, while most use scoped bolt actions and inlines. No skin off my ass, I use what I do by choice. If it shoots arrows {regardless of length} it belongs in archery season, if it burns powder and is breech loading it belongs in rifle season and if it loads through the muzzle it belongs in muzzleloader season. It's really as simple as that and there's no reason to complicate it further. What's funny as hell is that many who wouldn't use a crossbow on a bet during archery season will think nothing of "hunting" from a treehouse on highly managed, private land with food plots and feeders and think they've really accomplished something special when they kill that farm raised "manufactured" trophy buck. Those fella's are a real hoot ! Well spoken! George �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.� |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! GeauxLSU#700589210/25/12 | |
G Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger | |
Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 | Quote Compounds with all the accoutrements fine? As long as they have to draw the bowstring at the moment of truth, I'm fine with them. Pointing the stock of a co*cked weapon is a far, far cry from that. ANYBODY that has done any real bowhunting at all...and is honest, will say the same thing. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Ghostinthemachine#700590810/25/12 | |
.280Rem Campfire Outfitter | |
.280Rem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,760 | Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Quote Compounds with all the accoutrements fine? As long as they have to draw the bowstring at the moment of truth, I'm fine with them. Pointing the stock of a co*cked weapon is a far, far cry from that. ANYBODY that has done any real bowhunting at all...and is honest, will say the same thing. Ta-may-toe Ta-mah-toe War Damn Eagle! |
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Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! NH K9#700591910/25/12 | |
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger | |
Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 | Originally Posted by NH K9 Originally Posted by Blackheart WTF is it to ya what somebody else uses to hunt with ? I usually use a lever action .30-30 during rifle season and an iron sighted Hawken with patched balls during muzzleloader, while most use scoped bolt actions and inlines. No skin off my ass, I use what I do by choice. If it shoots arrows {regardless of length} it belongs in archery season, if it burns powder and is breech loading it belongs in rifle season and if it loads through the muzzle it belongs in muzzleloader season. It's really as simple as that and there's no reason to complicate it further. What's funny as hell is that many who wouldn't use a crossbow on a bet during archery season will think nothing of "hunting" from a treehouse on highly managed, private land with food plots and feeders and think they've really accomplished something special when they kill that farm raised "manufactured" trophy buck. Those fella's are a real hoot ! Well spoken! George Thank's George. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Ghostinthemachine#700593210/25/12 | |
N NH K9 Campfire Outfitter | |
NH K9 Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,787 | Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Quote Compounds with all the accoutrements fine? As long as they have to draw the bowstring at the moment of truth, I'm fine with them. Pointing the stock of a co*cked weapon is a far, far cry from that. ANYBODY that has done any real bowhunting at all...and is honest, will say the same thing. I agree that they're not "the same" and the crossbow makes life "easier". I wasn't able to put in the time with my "real" bow (damn OT) this year. Should I have skipped my trip to Ohio for early archery or should I have grabbed the xbow that I'm also comfortable with? I'll be damned if I'm not going to hunt because some folks don't think it's "fair". George �Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.� |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! eyeball#700598710/25/12 | |
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,806 BarryC Campfire Outfitter | |
BarryC Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,806 | Originally Posted by eyeball This is getting crazy. PS it's also a lot easier for me to kill stuff with my modern inlne, blackhorn 209, scope, and powerbelts than it was with my TC Hawken, open sights, FFg and round balls. Effective hunting range doubled from 125 to about 250 yards and makes it more in line with most hunters abilities with normal hunting rigs. I wish they were also limited to regular rifle season as they do not pertain to the original intent of muzzle loader hunting. See, Fudds come up with all these stupid boutique seasons for weapons that are obsolete and then wonder why everybody tries to improve on them. Sticks, stones and matchlocks are obsolete for good reasons. Heck, we invented improvements when that's all we had because we understood, even when they were the only things available, that they SUCKED. Islam is a terrorist organization. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! NH K9#700600110/25/12 | |
G Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger | |
Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 | I'm not saying anybody should skip anything. As long as it's legal, go have fun. I'm not making a personal judgement against anyone, I'd just prefer that they weren't legal in certain states archery seasons. Crossguns are not bows. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Ghostinthemachine#700602510/25/12 | |
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger | |
Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,233 | No matter how much you may wish it weren't so, crossBOWS still use a bent limb for propulsion and an arrow as a projectile. They are NOT and NEVER WILL BE firearms. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Blackheart#700610210/25/12 | |
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856 E eyeball Campfire 'Bwana | |
eyeball Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856 | Ghost, did you ever have a brain fart and say an x-bow was a firearm? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! GeoW#700610710/25/12 | |
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856 E eyeball Campfire 'Bwana | |
eyeball Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856 | Originally Posted by GeoW Blackheart, it could and should be simpler than that... Deer season opens on opening day... and closes on closing day.. use what you brung, from a pocket knife to a howitzer. That simplifies the matter considerable.
Geo Well spoken, drag out the howitzers, canons and mortars in rifle season. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! eyeball#700610810/25/12 | |
G Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger | |
Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 | Originally Posted by eyeball Ghost, did you ever have a brain fart and say an x-bow was a firearm? Nah, If you want to go ahead and call them bows, have at'r. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! aalf#700619010/25/12 | |
Kodiakisland Campfire Tracker | |
Kodiakisland Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,955 | Originally Posted by aalf Big bucks with crossbows don't turn my crank...... Would the deer have been any less impressive if killed with a handgun or muzzleloader? Both have more range than a Xbow. Don't just be a survivor, be a competitor. |
Re: New Record X-bow in GA!!! Kodiakisland#700621910/25/12 | |
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DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,098 |
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